We need MORE oil
05/01/14(Sun)20:57


We're killing ourselves over here. How you guys doing across the pond?

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09/01/14(Thu)11:24

>>26581 There always has to be one! ;P

09/01/14(Thu)00:14

actually our Solar system lasts more than 25 years ;p

06/01/14(Mon)22:57

Solar systems should last 25 years or more and will easily pay for themselves within 10 years!
Methane is a terrible idea, it's one of the most dangerous of all the greenhouse gasses. And as for fracking, enjoy your benzine induced brain damage to go with your flaming taps.
We need to re think our power systems to be local/individual, but of course big business won't like that...

06/01/14(Mon)20:24

.. and not mentioned is that half the people dangling that protest sign are shareholders in big business that want to have their portfolios enhanced by forcing big business to force their intentions on the government. What a laugh.

06/01/14(Mon)20:18

>>26558 here, you would pay, $8.99 for a gallon of petrol.

>>26559 The people in the north of the Netherlands have that same water/gas issue in their taps, plus earthquakes due to natural gas drilling and pumping.

06/01/14(Mon)19:50

At almost 71 I won't be investing, Grim. For others their attitude will only be changed when forced to. First up is all the fossil fuel plants will have to be changed to gas or closed and the millions of employees get jobs elsewhere. Those maintaining the power grids would still have jobs but a smaller work force would intervene because of the loss of customers. Then the government would get involved again. What the hell, they control everything else. What a political battle that would be; government against utility companies that have already been subdivided by the govt.
Our governments are totally opposite, Grim; yours being to help the citizens and ours run by big business to leave the citizens to fend for themselves. The only power the common man has here is the fact the government has to insure jobs under the threat of revolt.
These poor bastards, pictured above, can light a cigar under the kitchen faucet because of fracking.
Should the common person switch to solar power, the taxation would step in and make it impossible to switch because it would endanger big business.

06/01/14(Mon)19:48

and everytime the general mood is that we want to move away from oil, the industry lowers the price of a gallon of gas. Down to about $3.55 at my corner Arco station..

06/01/14(Mon)17:36

Solar panels cost a lot here too, if it wasn't for government discounts nobody would have it..it still isn't cheap though.
Like with other invention one must invest into it. Cost/Benefit is always an issue.

But with that attitude we'll never change. You need to invest in your future. You can prolly buy some cheap light/solar cells from somewhere and hook it up on the garage/shed/house. You, a grafty fellah, can build that hardly any expenses.

06/01/14(Mon)15:30

The solar system in the U.S. if far too expensive for the common family here with too little reward. By the time the solar unit is paid for (depending where you live) the maintenance fees kick in. Kind of like dangling a carrot before a lazy horse to make him move; not enough incentive for the investment. I'm more inclined to notice the methane gas as a solution to most energy problems. Oil will play out. Methane, won't. The air would be much cleaner with gas and oil could be saved for other things. The loss of plastics would be of the greatest concern to me but the chemists will come up with something.

06/01/14(Mon)07:48

one day we will be much more independent of oil. I have to believe that. But it probably won't happen in my lifetime.

05/01/14(Sun)23:30

You guys should go solar.

Weather is warm(ish).. and I have to pay less tax!